tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post2980046152202555898..comments2023-12-08T04:01:53.961-05:00Comments on Our Garden Journal: Musings: Japanese Garden.... or NotCathy and Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11985161421939096681noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-25608364792752546202011-06-14T09:23:12.041-04:002011-06-14T09:23:12.041-04:00You raise so many interesting points in your respo...You raise so many interesting points in your response to Jill's post. I like Holley's idea of Japanese style garden. It is so funny that when I read Jill's original post and left a comment, the words of Justice Stewart describing pornography popped into my head. I didn't use them because it is an international blog, and I didn't think people would get the reference without an explantion, which I didn't want to get into in a comment. I hope you have had a chance to visit DeniseNoNiwa and see her photos of gardens in Japan.Carolyn @ Carolyn's Shade Gardenshttp://carolynsshadegardens.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-3423998964213074062011-06-14T07:47:37.941-04:002011-06-14T07:47:37.941-04:00Cathy, I was delighted to see your comment on my G...Cathy, I was delighted to see your comment on my GGW post, and now to read your thoughts here. My purpose in writing was exactly as you surmised - simply to get people pondering on the way we describe and categorise garden styles. It is a big, interesting subject and, as you say, tied in with notions of authenticity and cultural identity. <br />In my response to your comment on GGW, I have mentioned that my original post was inspired by a symposium earlier this year called "Foreign Trends on American Soil" which looked at how US landscapes have been influenced by garden styles from abroad. Anyone who has been intrigued by my musings, or by your excellent post here, might look out for the forthcoming book, based on the papers presented at the symposium. JillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-69858233404208975412011-06-12T23:22:33.154-04:002011-06-12T23:22:33.154-04:00This was a very thought provoking post. I do not p...This was a very thought provoking post. I do not pigeon hole a design style because the designer's culture always creeps in. It is hard to separate oneself from a heritage and a design would not be authentic if it did not include a bit of vernacular that surrounds it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-67391838232089075282011-06-12T20:28:22.089-04:002011-06-12T20:28:22.089-04:00A thoughtful post. Style is a good word to use. P...A thoughtful post. Style is a good word to use. Perhaps authentic (as one part of its meaning) would proscribe the use of any plant, bush, tree, vine, etc. not native to the area.L. Amblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04828890482813303530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-57392026763054223812011-06-12T16:50:55.427-04:002011-06-12T16:50:55.427-04:00I think you figured it out in your example of the ...I think you figured it out in your example of the kosher delis. One is authentic, the other is kosher "style" serving things other than perfectly authentic. Same, I would say, of gardens. English "style" or Japanese "style" I think, would mean evocative of that style, but maybe not all the way authentic. By the way, the photos of your garden album at the bottom of your blog are amazing!HolleyGardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14892421871044249940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-28760197489433284692011-06-12T16:34:02.785-04:002011-06-12T16:34:02.785-04:00That is why I'm sometimes forced to explain wh...That is why I'm sometimes forced to explain why I call the And Roses garden Paradise. Not because I think it is perfection, but because I was inspired by the tradition of Paradise gardens in Persia (now Iran, but that's another story)<br /><br />And the kosher food ... we are vegetarian, and object to gelatine being used to thicken our yoghurt. If my yoghurt is labelled kosher, I know the thickening is plant based and is acceptable to me. Woolworths changed their supplier when they found gelatine despite the guidelines.Diana Studerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12286066768376135880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-74754757457481783182011-06-12T12:29:13.348-04:002011-06-12T12:29:13.348-04:00Alan, we are actually very good at researching, bu...Alan, we are actually very good at researching, but consciously make substitutions that suit our personal taste, personal style, and micro-climate. So while we often know what should be included, we seldom "follow the directions" either. As I like to say, it's not perfection, it's a garden.<br /><br />And Autumn Belle, I think you've really hit on something. I haven't heard a better description of what we call our Zen garden. <br /><br />It started out as a very carefully thought out Zen garden that in the four years we've had it, has evolved into a clear fusion of everything Zen and everything we love. It's a pleasant place to sit and meditate, read, daydream, have breakfast... it's one of our favorite little nooks and crannies.<br /><br />Thanks so much, both of you, for your comments!Cathy and Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11985161421939096681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-30248758580581385632011-06-12T10:52:16.306-04:002011-06-12T10:52:16.306-04:00Just like we have fusion food when different cultu...Just like we have fusion food when different cultures are combined, I guess we can have a 'fusion garden' or 'anglo-zen garden' ;>)Autumn Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818422090556602092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1306667106050601639.post-79431889940016597452011-06-12T08:37:59.025-04:002011-06-12T08:37:59.025-04:00Very nice post! I'm not a big fan of labels on...Very nice post! I'm not a big fan of labels on gardens, probably because I'm not focused enough to follow all of the directions -- I like combining different elements. :-)Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13393082652312828458noreply@blogger.com